It's episode number 254 of the way I heard it.

And this one is called What the Hand Does, The Mind Remembers.

Assuming you're okay with that title, Chuck.

It's a great quote.

Yeah, it's absolutely good.

We wrestled with calling it, I'm alive today, because of what?

Because dead men kept fighting.

I'm alive today because dead men kept fighting.

He's a guy who fought in Vietnam, and I believe he was shot down as well.

He flew an attack helicopter.

Robert Kiyosaki has a lot of stories,

and you're going to hear a few of them in this conversation. He, of course, is the author of what

many claim to be the best-selling financial book ever written, Rich Dad, Poor Dad. You read it Chuck

back in 2000. I read it in the late 90s. For me, it really drew a bright line,

not just between being an employee versus being an entrepreneur, but an employee versus a freelancer.

Rich dad, poor dad became part of my explanation for why I love freelancing and gigging as much as I do.

It introduced me to a way to think outside of the box.

I mean, what his rich dad did for him and his best friend was to open up their minds,

to make them think like entrepreneurs instead of employees, make them think

outside of the box of different ways that they can make money. And they played monopoly to

learn about money, which I think is pretty crazy. Yeah, his rich dad insisted they play monopoly.

And to this day, Robert says it informed a lot of what he did in the world of real

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