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253. Victorian Narcos: Drug Dealers Lead Britain to War (Ep 7)

Empire

Jack Davenport

History

4.6 • 4.1K Ratings

šŸ—“ļø 7 May 2025

ā±ļø 43 minutes

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How did opium traders convince the British Cabinet to wage war on China? Who was Lord Palmerston? Why was China, one of the biggest empires in the world, so ill-prepared for war at sea? William and Anita discuss how James Matheson launched a propaganda campaign in the British press which led to warships being sent to China, on the way to start The First Opium War… Empire Club: Become a member of the Empire Club to receive early access to miniseries, ad-free listening, early access to live show tickets, bonus episodes, book discounts, our exclusive newsletter, and access to our members’ chatroom on Discord! Head to empirepoduk.com to sign up. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.Ā  Email: [email protected] Instagram: @empirepodukĀ  Blue Sky: @empirepodukĀ  X: @empirepoduk Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Anouska Lewis Senior Producer: Callum Hill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:06.7

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0:12.0

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0:33.1

Well, hello and welcome to Empire with me, Anita Arnholm.

0:34.7

And me, William Durimpool.

0:40.7

So previously, if you're just joining us, and you know, if you've heard this before, it was a very odd story.

0:52.4

Okay, so what you have is a situation in China where you have a man called Charles Elliott, who is in charge of trade with China, but really not really in charge at all, because the main trade that is going on is the opium trade.

0:54.8

And the opium trade is run by these couple of Scottish ruffians called Jardine and Matheson, who pretty much laugh into their

1:01.1

sleeves at anything Elliot has to say. He's a weak chinted Elliot sitting in Macau,

1:05.0

who just doesn't really like conflict, who's very conflict-averse. He's a good man. He's a,

1:09.9

he's a nice man. He's been freeing slaves in West Africa.

1:13.0

He's a nice man.

1:14.0

And he's just not the kind of person to square up to Jardine and Mathes.

1:18.4

And they have these sort of gangs of brigands.

1:21.5

They're fully talled up.

1:22.9

They don't really listen to him.

1:24.6

They are the Pablo Escobar of 19th century China, yeah.

1:28.7

But they're doing it from the British factory in Canton, which is, you know, supposedly

1:34.0

is sort of British soil, although it isn't because the Chinese don't let Britain buy the

1:38.9

soil that they put their factory on. It still belongs to China. All the people working in there

1:44.0

for the British boiling their eggs and starching their collars. They're to China. All the people working in there for the British

1:44.6

boiling their eggs and starching their collars. They're all Chinese. All the guards around it,

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