She's just not somebody you can be friends with. You can go on a hike with her through the Hollywood hills and she'll ask you about your family. She'll be very nice, but you never actually get to know this person. You can't touch her, you can't get through the glass.

Welcome to this. Today's episode of On the Edge with Andrew Gold with Vanessa Gregorriadis who's been on the

podcast before she's got this podcast called Infamous about cults and

cult leaders and people who obviously become famous through nefarious means bad things they've done and they've

become infamous. And she has a lot of inside information about Megan Markle because she wrote this article for Vanity Fair which is all

very illustrious and a very you know long form essay about the whole Markle family

breakdown or the family history breakdown so she's got loads of

inside information about the sort of what she calls the Kardashianified royal fairy tale so we're

going to go into a lot of that and I suppose the reason

that people do have such a problem with her because she's not all bad no one is. I mean I

suppose vicious dictators are but there's just something that a lot of people have a problem with around her and I think

Vanessa is very good at putting her finger on exactly what that is it might be that you're a huge Markle fan and that you hate

this episode. I hope that's not the case, but you know plurality of opinion that's

what we need and don't think for a second that criticizing

Megan and Harry means that I or Vanessa are on the side of the royal family. I think it's possible to

critically analyze both sides for their misdemeanors. Anyway big episodes I

always say that don't I there's loads of big episodes coming out loads of big, don't I? There's loads of big episodes coming out.

Those are big episodes, don't worry about what they are.

They're coming out.

You're gonna enjoy them.

This is a great episode as well.

Check out infamous by the way.

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