#253 — Corporate Courage

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.6 • 29.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2021

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Jason Fried about the recent controversy over the “no politics” policy at his company Basecamp. They discuss his business philosophy, the surrender of institutions to "social-justice" activism, how politics has acquired a religious fervor, some of the cultural risks of remote work, keeping activists out of one’s company, social media use as analogous to smoking cigarettes, antitrust regulations for big tech, how social media might be improved, the tax-avoidance schemes of the richest Americans, the prospect of implementing a wealth tax, and other topics.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast.
0:09.1	This is Sam Harris.
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0:47.6	Today I'm speaking with Jason Fried.
0:50.9	Jason is the co-founder and CEO of Basecamp, formerly 37 signals, which is a Chicago-based
0:58.8	software firm, which produces the Basecamp product.
1:03.0	He's also the co-author of the book ReWork, among others, and he also writes Inc.
1:09.4	magazines Get Real Column.
1:12.7	And I invited Jason on the podcast to discuss the recent controversy over his no politics
1:19.0	policy at Basecamp, which caused quite a firestorm on social media, as you'll hear.
1:26.4	We discuss the pervasive failure of institutional nerve in the face of all of this social justice
1:32.9	activism, how our politics has acquired a religious fervor of late, some of the cultural
1:39.7	risks of remote work, how to keep activists out of one's company, antitrust regulations
1:46.4	for big tech, how social media might be improved, pro-publica's recent disclosure of the
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