Summary In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics including April's super villain chair, their confessions about being involved in multi-level marketing schemes, the recent overturning of the ban on LGBTQ+ clergy in the United Methodist Church, and the student protests in solidarity with the Palestinian people. They also touch on the militarization of the US police force and the need for the evangelical church to repent for its harmful theology. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the controversial statements made by John MacArthur regarding mental health. They highlight the problematic nature of his views and the harm they can cause to individuals struggling with mental health issues. They also critique the dismissive and judgmental attitude towards those who seek medication and treatment for their conditions. The conversation touches on the dehumanization of children and the harmful beliefs about women's roles in the church. Despite these negative perspectives, the hosts also highlight some positive news and victories in the fight for justice and equality. Chapters 00:00 Confessions: Tim and April's MLM Experiences 03:14 United Methodist Church Overturns Ban on LGBTQ+ Clergy 15:04 Student Protests in Solidarity with Palestinians 32:55 Introduction and Background on John MacArthur 36:18 John MacArthur's Controversial Views on Mental Health 44:44 The Dehumanization of Children and Rigid Gender Roles 01:05:06 Positive News and Victories in the Fight for Justice Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices