Hi, John. Hi, cable. It's been a while. Oh, so here we go. Special episode is a very special

episode of the talk show and it's not just one guest. It's three. It's panic co-founders,

cable sassers and Stephen Frank, no strangers to being guests together on this show. And

first time guest, Greg, Meledic. Hello, everybody. Hey, John. Hey, John. How are you? Thanks.

For having us. Hello. We are here to talk about the most exciting piece of hardware and hand

hold hand held gaming in years. Just today, Apple released an update to the iPod Touch. Are you

going to be excited? Are you guys excited? Finally. Sure. I think it's a great platform to be

on it. iPod Touch. Yeah. Yeah. It is really nice. So I think that it is exciting. I have, of

course, I'm kidding. We're here to talk about play date. But the iPod Touch is new. We could

briefly touch on it. It's a it's it is such isn't it such an oddball device like it it obviously

must sell in high enough quantities that they don't get rid of it, right? Like they don't sell old

spin wheel click wheel iPods anymore, right? At some point, people stop buying them and Apple stop

making them. They're not they don't keep making things for nostalgic purposes. But on the other

hand, they didn't update it in four years, which is a long time. Did they make any other iPod product

right now? Do they still make the nothing else, right? There's no nano. There's no shuffle. I don't

pick some. So the iPod Touch is the last remaining iPod. Yeah. And then when the nano and shuffle

existed, that was even weirder because there was like that clone OS of iOS. Somebody has to work

on this every day. And that always seems super strange to me. But I think the iPod Touch is really

cool. I don't know. It's a great size. I mean, and I've had many as the closest thing to it.

Yeah, that's true. But that's too big for some cases. Yeah. And it's always surprisingly thinner

than whatever the state of the art iPhone is. Yes. I remember and I've told this story before. But

at some point, I'm pretty sure it was a WDBC, but it was something at at a Moscone West. It was an

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