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Trading Secrets

252. The Bachelorette's Boldest Move Yet: Taylor Frankie Paul Takes the Lead

Trading Secrets

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55.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Jason Tartick, Kelley Flannigan, and Jason's sidekick David Arduin (aka The Curious Canadian) dive into the biggest shake-up Bachelor Nation has seen in years — the casting of Taylor Frankie Paul as the next Bachelorette. From her controversial background to her massive social media following, we break down why ABC made this bold decision, how fans might react, and what it could mean for the future of ratings across The Bachelor franchise. Is this the risk the show needs to stay alive, or a move that could backfire? Tune in for insider takes, business analysis, and fan perspective on the franchise's most dramatic pivot yet.

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0:00.0

Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. This one is very different. It is an

0:18.1

infrompt to State of the Union with the big new Bachelorette announcement.

0:23.5

We cover all things on trading secrets. A lot of our guests have been from The Bachelor,

0:29.4

Bachelorette, Bachelor in Paradise. I myself was an alumni from Bachelor Nation, as most

0:35.1

you guys know, and we do talk often about what is happening

0:38.4

from all aspects and, of course, the business and numbers perspective. This episode is going

0:44.0

to be a quicker one. We're going to get some opinions from the one and only, the curious

0:48.6

Canadian David Ardoin, but it feels only right to bring on what I would consider one of the top Bachelorette contenders

0:56.9

out there. An alumni from Bachelors Nation, she is seeing all aspects of it. She's friends with

1:02.5

a lot of the people from the show, Kelly Flanagan. So we're getting the curious Canadian.

1:07.5

We're getting Kelly Flanagan. We're getting it all and we're talking about the big

1:11.5

announcement, which, unless you're living under a rock, is that Taylor Frankie Paul from

1:17.8

Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is now our new bachelorette. So before I kick it over to you, Kelly,

1:26.8

I want to kick it over to the one and only David Ardoin,

1:31.0

the Curious Canadian. I know you are passionate about this franchise. You've been a fan for decades.

1:36.3

I'm sure you have an opinion or two. What is your initial take on what this announcement was,

1:42.1

and specifically who it was, and what is next for bachelor nation listen

1:47.2

jason i it's nine o'clock on a wednesday night i got things to do but the bachelor franchise

1:53.5

they had to do it again they had to get me on the edge of my seat they had to get me with a mic in

1:58.8

my hand i'm lucky enough to have you and

2:01.2

Kelly on here. I want to make it short and sweet. I don't know if I'll be able to, but I'm just

2:06.4

going to say this. When I saw that announcement, I said they did it to us again. They did it to

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