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The Addicted Mind Podcast

252: REPLAY: Treating Addiction Through Healing Abandonment Wounds with Susan Anderson

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Mental Health

4.8621 Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The fear of abandonment is universal. The problem is – we try to medicate that feeling with whatever gives us instant gratification (drugs, alcohol, food, television, sleeping, social media, shopping, etc.) 

Whatever that looks like, addiction can stem from an unhealed abandonment wound. And when you fail to take care of that wound, it can lead to self-sabotage. So how do we heal our abandonment issues?

On today’s episode, Duane speaks with Susan Anderson, founder of Abandonment Recovery, a program that helps people with numerous issues such as heartbreak loss, self-sabotage, addiction, and compulsion. Susan shares her own story of how she got into this work of dealing with abandonment. Susan gives us an illustration of what abandonment looks like, how it impacts our life, and what we can do to overcome it.

Susan points out that overcoming abandonment is a doing process. Therefore, just knowing about it isn't necessarily going to help you overcome the wound that may be negatively impacting your life. There needs to be action.


In this episode, you will hear:

  • Why abandonment is universal
  • The correlation between abandonment and addiction
  • Loneliness as a huge adult trigger
  • Early abandonment vs. normal level of abandonment
  • Self-sabotage and the outer child
  • Forms of self-sabotage
  • The power of visualization


Key Quotes:

[02:36] - "Abandonment translates to separation anxiety, which is something we all share as human beings. It's universal and we medicate that feeling.”

[04:16] - “We all have a fear of abandonment, and when it's triggered by an adult experience, it can create a cascade of hormonal processes in the brain. No matter how strong we are, we can all experience a serious emotional crisis if the trigger is big enough in adulthood."

[05:37] - "Overcoming abandonment is a doing process, not just a feeling process. It's a recovery. It's an ongoing process."

[10:53] - "When we are going through an adult trigger, even if it's a mild trigger, the thing that we are most vulnerable to is becoming addicted to a substance or to an activity."

[19:01] - "If you've had a lot of abandonment, you have a lot of self-sabotage... and you repeat the thing that's so familiar."

[29:16] "You don't have to make gigantic changes to have your dreams start to line. You need to make enough of a change just to get that door to swing. It's an amazing thing that small changes make huge differences."

[34:18] "Everyone's looking for a magic bullet that's why addictions are so popular... but they have to enter on a journey of developing a new relationship with themselves and it's something they have to really work out and take very seriously."

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https://www.abandonment.net/ 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast.

0:09.9

My name is Dwayne Austerlund. I'm your host, and we are on to another episode.

0:15.7

So today my guest is Susan Anderson, and we're going to talk about a topic that really, I think,

0:23.3

impacts everyone in some way or some form, and that's abandonment.

0:30.0

Susan is going to share her own story of how she got into this work of dealing with

0:34.3

abandonment, and then talk about what abandonment looks like and how it impacts

0:40.6

our life and how just having insight therapy about it, just knowing about it isn't necessarily going

0:48.6

to help you overcome those abandonment wounds that may be impacting your life in negative ways.

0:55.5

Great conversation.

0:57.6

Susan is passionate about this work.

1:00.0

So I was excited to do this interview and talk about this topic because I think it's just so

1:06.0

universal to everyone.

1:08.3

So I think you'll get a lot out of this episode.

1:12.8

Before we do that, if you are enjoying the Indicted Mind podcast, please rate and review us in iTunes. It really does help the podcast

1:19.3

get found, and I really appreciate it. And it's really meaningful to me to just see the reviews

1:25.0

and to see that people are listening. So thank you so much for the people who have done that.

1:30.4

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1:33.2

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1:39.5

All right.

1:40.0

Let's go ahead and get this episode rolling.

1:46.0

Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast.

1:49.0

My guest today is Susan Anderson.

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