Welcome to the Retire with Purpose podcast, a show specifically designed to help pre-retirees and retirees maximize their financial confidence.

Casey Wheat is a certified financial planner and president of Howard Bailey Financial.

His newest book, Job Optional, is a Wall Street Journal

bestseller and is available now on Amazon and at Retirewithpurpose.com. He's your host on

retire with purpose. Hey, I'm Casey, and I believe in retirement strategies that are driven by

meaning and purpose. Join me this week and every week as we discuss thoughts and ideas

with some of today's foremost experts in the field of finance and retirement, as well as discussing

trending topics that could impact your bottom line. These discussions can help you make

better financial decisions so you can live the lifestyle you've always imagined and deserved.

Welcome to the show.

Today, I'm speaking with Aviva Wittenberg Cox.

Aviva is the CEO of 21st, a global balance consultancy that works with C-suite teams to achieve gender and generational

balance by focusing on leadership, culture, and systems. She is a regular contributor to Forbes

and Harvard Business Review, as well as being the author of Seven Steps to Leading Gender-Balanced

Businesses, Why Women Mean Business, Understanding the emergency of our next economic revolution,

and the one that caught my eye, late love, mating in maturity. Aviva's work caught my eye

actually initially, though, when I came across her Forbes article entitled Retirement, Redundancy,

rejection, the extreme emotionality of ending. We actually did a

weekend reading podcast on that previously, and I look forward to the opportunity to dig

into her thoughts around what that really meant to her, redundancy, rejection, the extreme

emotionality of ending. What exactly does that mean to her?

Because I think it means something different to all of us. In our conversation today, we not only focus on

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