I remember my mother telling me, well, you don't know what you're going to do with your life.

You don't have a calling.

And I'm thinking, well, yeah, I actually kind of do.

It's not to be a doctor or a minister or something like that.

It's to go and build stuff out of wood.

And she just couldn't equate those things.

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Andy, thank you so much for being on with me today, buddy.

Oh, it's my pleasure, Patrick. I haven't seen you since, well, like, March.

And normal times, we would have been together drinking at least half a dozen times by now,

I would estimate. Probably so. I miss those days.

So are you still getting beer at Bad Dog dog brewing up there in New Milford?

No, they're closed.

You can't even buy curbside pickup there.

That's too bad.

It is.

I hope they reopened, but who knows?

So the place in Newtown, Reverie Brewing, is still doing, you know,

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