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In the past few decades, media platforms have diversified, making true crime accessible to millions.

Take podcasts, for example. In 2014, Syrials' breakout popularity carried the genre to new heights.

There definitely seems to have been a lot more shows and movies in recent months and years about these same killers from the 70s from the 80s.

And so as the stories get told over and over again, they almost become like modern folk tales or Americana.

I'm here with Eric Good, who's the producer and director of The Smash hit Tiger King.

It's important for people to know that Joe, as charismatic as he was, and just like any human being, there's a lot of gray.

And we're not all bad, but Joe did a lot of really bad things.

And it's a little bit concerning for me that people who have seen this series walk away feeling that Joe should be sprung from jail.

I don't want to say how much time Joe should do, but I will say that Joe did a lot of things that were really not okay.

And the abuse of the animals, the caging of the animals, who needs 220 tigers, caged after caged after caged, the suffering that took place on that property.

Both with his animals and with the people that worked around him was unconscionable.

And then allegedly trying to kill someone, Joe was not a good person.

And so I just think it's important for people to understand that and recognize that probably the real heroes in this story are those people that are trying to stop this behavior.

And those that are dedicating their lives to stopping the suffering of tiger, animal abuse, tigers, big cats, lions, whatever it is.

And I just hope that people realize that and walk away knowing that.

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clement.

You retired FBI Profile Reformer and New York City Prosecutor and Reproducer of CBS's Criminal Minds. And what me today is?

Laura Richett's Criminal Behavioral Analyst, former New Scotland Yard and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.

And I'm Lisa Zambetti. I am the casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds.

Before we get into the tiger king craziness, I know Jim, you wanted to bring up something that you've been thinking about about other true crime shows and how they depict victims and offenders.

I want to talk about the media and a particular part of the media. And I don't want to use the name of the show because I don't want to advertise for it. But this kind of victim blaming.

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