I think fathers feel extraordinary degrees of powerlessness, because you're there as the protector

of your family and you're rendered powerless by nature first and then by the medical system.

Absolutely. She would go in one week, talk to one doctor, and the doctor would assure her that

everything is fine and it looks great. And then she would go in the week, talk to one doctor, and the doctor would assure her that everything is fine and it looks great.

And then she would go in the next week, it would be like almost catastrophic, right?

The doctor is like, well, when we see this fetal growth restriction, it's not good.

It's stressful.

Tricia, how would a couple know at this point if they're dealing with small for gestational age versus intrajudgment

and growth restriction. That's the million dollar question around IUGR. And when you're

trying to get out of the hospital and you're like, well, baby's fine. Mom's fine. It's eight in the

morning the next day. We've slept. It's time to go. And it's like, well, you're not allowed to leave

until the pediatrician signs off on this baby. And it's like, well, I'm telling you the baby's fine. And I'm the dad. Right. And it's like, well, if you leave now, we're going to call CPS on you. I felt like I was in, like, prison. I'm Cynthia Overgard, owner of hypniburthing of Connecticut, childbirth advocate, and

postpartum support specialist. And I'm Tresha Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international

board certified lactation consultant. And this is the down-to-birth podcast. Childbirth is something we're made to do, but how do we have our safest

and most satisfying experience in today's medical culture? Let's dispel the myths and get down to

birth. My name is Eric R. I live in Loveland, Colorado, with my wife, Aaron, and we have two beautiful daughters.

One is two and a half. The other is about five months. And, you know, I wanted to come on the show and talk about, you know, our fetal growth restriction

diagnosis that we got and kind of our journey going through that. And, you know, we had originally

intended to do, you know, a birth at a birthing center and then wanted to do a home birth and then

ended up in the hospital. So I can kind of talk about that journey and the hospital birth.

Yeah. Eric, really quickly, this is the story of your second daughter, right? The five months old.

So just in a nutshell, so you were, you know, I always feel like fathers go into their

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