251. World Refugee Day: Migration In A Post-Climate Change World
Outrage + Optimism
Persephonica
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 20 June 2024
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
This week, Outrage + Optimism celebrate World Refugee Day with an interview with Gaia Vince. The hosts discuss how extreme heat, floods or natural disasters cause tens of millions of people to leave their homes behind. They look at how climate migration is happening now and will only happen faster and with greater impact. With each degree of temperature rise, a billion people will be displaced and huge swathes of the world will become uninhabitable.
Gaia Vince, author of Nomad Century: How to Survive the Climate Upheaval talks to the hosts about the need for what she calls ‘honest pragmatism about human mobility’. With Gaia’s steer, the hosts and Gaia discuss ways we might manage this inevitable movement of people; why the right wing, anti-immigration narrative might resonate but is not rooted in the fact that migrants historically enrich societies, both culturally and financially, and how to implement long-term solutions rather than patch-ups.
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| 0:00.0 | So, |
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| 0:34.3 | British Podcast Awards.com slash voting. |
| 0:38.6 | And we've also officially launched our 2024 listener feedback survey and it's only one page to fill out |
| 0:45.0 | and listeners get to give feedback, |
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| 0:58.3 | can do better. And we look forward to hearing from you as ever. Hello and I'm Paul Dickinson. |
| 1:15.0 | Hello and welcome to Outrage and Optimism. |
| 1:17.0 | I'm Tom Rifik Karnak. |
| 1:18.0 | I'm Christina Figueroge. |
| 1:20.0 | Today for UN World Refugee Day, we are bringing you a conversation about the consequences and the causes of forced migration around the world. |
| 1:29.0 | We have a conversation with author Guyavitz. Thanks for being it. Okay, so as ever, World Refugee Day falls on the 20th of June and this is incredibly |
| 1:54.2 | consequential and something more people are paying attention to and should pay |
| 1:57.8 | attention to because this is an issue of increasing importance in our |
| 2:01.8 | changing world. We all know that the issue of migration |
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