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The Road to Now

#251 The West Wing & Beyond w/ Pete Souza

The Road to Now

Benjamin Sawyer

Society & Culture, History

4.8628 Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Pete Souza has spent more time inside the 'Presidential bubble' than almost anyone. The more than thirteen years he spent photographing Ronald Reagan (1983-1989) and Barack Obama (2009-2017) gave him a singular view into the executive branch that he has captured and shared with the public through his photography. In this episode, Pete joins Bob & Ben to discuss his new book The West Wing & Beyond: What I Saw Inside the Presidency, which looks beyond the Presidents themselves and to the people and spaces that define the office of the US President.

You can learn more about Pete Souza's work at his website, petesouza.com, and by following him on twitter and Instagram at @petesouza. You can also check out the documentary film The Way I See It (Focus Features, 2020) which tells the story of Pete's work inside the White House (and features a brief cameo by Bob & Ben).

 

If you enjoy this episode, check out Pete's previous appearances on The Road to Now in episode #131 and episode #151.

 

This episode was edited by Gary Fletcher.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ben, you got your cricket shirts.

0:07.0

You've had time to wear them.

0:09.0

What do you think?

0:10.0

Bob, I love these shirts.

0:13.0

Bob, it's hot outside.

0:14.0

I sweat like crazy.

0:16.0

I overheat.

0:17.0

And so a lot of times what I do is I wear like a nice polo shirt to work, you know,

0:20.8

like a nice collared shirt. But they're all the ones I've got before, they're kind of rough, you know, so you wear an undershirt with them, which just kind of makes it hotter. I can wear these shirts with no undershirt. They're cool, Bob. They look good. That's, that's the 100% Pima cotton. It's amazing.

0:37.8

Like, it's so soft.

0:39.3

And it just, the heat, it feels, I used to say about linen pants, it feels like you're not wearing pants, it just feels like your legs are in the shade. This is the first shirt that I've worn that feels like this. And it looks good, man. They got different styles. I never even imagine that you could make like a standard polo shirt look so different.

0:55.7

Right. I love these collars. I love my favorites, the,

0:59.2

slim fit player's shirt. The range polos are great. You got to go on the cricket website.

1:04.8

It's cricket shirts. That's C-R-I-Q-U-E-T shirts.com. check out everything they have designed in austin texas i love this

1:16.3

company i love what they're doing they've reinvented the polo shirt ben like you said teaching

1:21.5

you could wear sports coat over these things yes and even better i could wear nothing over these

1:26.6

things except for this shirt and it looks good and like like with a good pair, like a good nice pair of jeans and a good pair of dress shoes. And like I feel like I'm getting away with something wearing this to work. You know what I'm saying? Like how am I getting to wear this to work? I wear them to work all the time. Oh yeah. On stage. You were wearing these shirts before they sponsored. That's the amazing thing. So guys, I can't tell you enough. My recommendation would be get a size. If you're on the cusp of two different sizes, get one that's on the smaller size. I was wearing extra large. And I got large. They fit perfectly. They hang nicely they hang nicely cricket shirts couldn't recommend them

2:02.4

more go to cricket shirts.com that's spelled c r i q-u-et shirts.com put in the discount code road to now

2:11.6

for 20% off your first order you're going to dig these shirts I'm Bob Craw Crawford. I'm Ben Sawyer. And this is Pete

2:21.1

Sousa. I've ruined that. Second episode in the road, we can't get this right. Episode number 250-something.

2:28.3

But even better because you're here, Pete, ladies and gentlemen, your guest today, Pete Sousa,

2:33.6

it's great to have you here, Pete.

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