251: Part 2: "El Chapo's" Fall: The Fentanyl Connection Nobody Talks About
Game of Crimes
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🗓️ 10 June 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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In Part 2 of this explosive interview, Ray Donovan — the DEA's Chief of Operations — goes deeper than any headline ever has. This isn't the sanitized version you've heard before. This is the real account of how a multi-agency coalition of DEA, FBI, and HSI agents coordinated one of the most complex law enforcement operations in modern history to bring down Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzmán and dismantle the Sinaloa Cartel's global empire.
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| 0:00.0 | Are there other countries that are having issues like we have fentanyl here in the United States? |
| 0:05.1 | Yes, absolutely. So Canada has a major issue. Canada is becoming more of a production country. |
| 0:12.2 | What I mean by that is, and you remember back in the 80s and 90s when a biker gangs used to do |
| 0:18.7 | the meth production in the United States, and then the Mexican |
| 0:21.6 | cartels took over that production. It was cheaper. It was more effective. Same thing happened |
| 0:26.8 | with fentanyl. So fentanyl was coming directly into the U.S. from China, and then the Mexican |
| 0:32.0 | cartels took over production. They started pressing millions of fentanyl pills. Well, production in the |
| 0:37.3 | U.S. |
| 0:37.9 | It exists, but it doesn't exist at scale because of Mexico. |
| 0:41.6 | What we're seeing now in Canada is meth and fentanyl productions. |
| 0:45.7 | I'm Steve Murphy, DEA Special Agent Retired and now host of the Game of Crimes podcast. |
| 0:50.7 | If you've seen the Netflix series Narcos, then you know my story. |
| 0:55.3 | I now bring you stories of heroism and bravery from our law enforcement and military heroes and occasionally from the criminals that they faced. |
| 1:04.1 | Welcome to Game of Crimes. |
| 1:05.9 | Thank you. All right, folks, you saw or you heard yesterday what really happened to chopped |
| 1:23.0 | with Guzman. |
| 1:23.8 | You heard that from the man that led the operation, Ray Donovan. And Ray is back again with us today. |
| 1:29.3 | If you haven't seen Part 1 yet, you're behind the eight ball here. |
| 1:32.9 | But just to remind you, Ray is a 29-year veteran law enforcement, all federal. |
| 1:39.3 | Two years with the U.S. Border Patrol and then 27 years with the Drug Enforcement Administration made it up to Chief of Ops, which is our number three position. |
| 1:48.4 | And that's the guy that really runs the show. That's the guy that's having to deal with all the operations around the world. |
| 1:54.1 | It's not just a, it's not just a division that he's run, although he did run the New York City division there for a while. |
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