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251: Nullification

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🗓️ 30 August 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Barb McQuade hosts #SistersInLaw to usher in Labor Day with a discussion of Trump’s attack on Federal Reserve Board member Lisa Cook, her lawsuit against him, and whether either of them has a case.  Then, they break down the assault on the CDC and the healthcare system under RFK Jr.’s tenure, and look ahead to what it means for the future of our national health.  They also use the recent sandwich-throwing incident to explore the use cases of jury nullification, and lay out our rights to free expression in the face of the president’s E.O. targeting flag burning.

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0:00.0

Welcome back to hashtag sisters-in-law with Kimberly Atkins Store, Jill Wine Banks, and me, Barb McQuaid.

0:19.4

Joyce will be back soon and we already miss her. In fact, today at the

0:22.2

store, someone said to me, has anyone ever told you you look just like Joyce fans? Everyone has.

0:28.6

Yeah, as a matter of fact, they have. So, you know, I get that all the time. We miss her and we look

0:35.8

forward to her return. You know, our resistance minitote is really the

0:40.3

popular item of the season. That and our sisters-in-law t-shirt are selling out fast. So get

0:46.9

yours now. You can go to politicon.com slash merch. Now we'll get on with the show where we're going to

0:53.2

discuss the firing of the Federal

0:55.6

Reserve Board Governor Lisa Cook, sandwich gate, and Trump's flag-burning gambit. But first, I want to ask

1:04.4

my sisters, you know, we're here on Labor Day weekend about your Labor Day plans. You know, I know

1:10.4

some people think of it as a time for

1:12.5

cookouts and barbecues and all that sort of stuff, but I sort of like the original meaning

1:20.0

of Labor Day. What about you, Kim? You come from a labor family, don't you? I do come from

1:24.8

a labor family. My father was the business secretary of a building trades union in Detroit. He was a union man his whole entire life. In fact, when he would give me a check, whether it was for my tuition or something else that I needed to take to school, he put a sticker on each check saying this

1:45.3

payment made possible by union labor.

1:48.6

There you go.

1:49.9

It was a very strong value in our household.

1:55.9

And I definitely always take time to remember that.

2:06.8

I'm incredibly grateful to the workers of our, of our country,

2:12.9

and how hard they work and they do deserve fair pay, good benefits, the ability to retire and have something to retire on. And unions have made that possible for generations and,

2:19.2

you know, for families like me to have a chance at growing up and being a part of the American

2:24.8

dream. So Labor Day is one of my favorite holidays. Yeah, me too. My dad was a member of the

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