#2509 - Caleb Hammer
The Joe Rogan Experience
Joe Rogan
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🗓️ 4 June 2026
⏱️ 135 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Joe Rogan podcast checking out. |
| 0:04.0 | The Joe Rogan Experience |
| 0:06.0 | Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night all day. |
| 0:10.0 | Good to see you, sorry. |
| 0:13.0 | Good too, nice to meet you. |
| 0:14.0 | Very nice to meet you too. |
| 0:15.0 | I enjoy your content. |
| 0:16.0 | Thank you. |
| 0:17.0 | You're a very sensible person, and you deal with a lot of very unsensible people. How do you fucking keep your shit together when you talk to these people? |
| 0:25.6 | You're a fun. |
| 0:26.6 | We tell everybody, you're a finance guy. |
| 0:27.6 | And did you start out in debt and then figured out how to get your shit together? |
| 0:32.6 | Yeah, exactly. |
| 0:34.6 | I was in college doing all the stupid American things, right? So you got that unlimited student loan debt for a bullshit degree. I was going for music composition. So complete bullshit degree. Maxing out every credit card, one of the first pieces of financial advice I got at 18 from the parents, max out a credit card to get the piano I wanted. So that's smart. |
| 0:54.3 | Your parents gave you that. Yeah, it's just the average American experience. You just max out a credit card. I don't know if your parents taught you anything about personal finances, but most don't. It's bad. So I was just maxing out every credit card, like everyone that comes on the show, like every American out there. We got $1.6 trillion in credit card debt in this country, by the way. |
| 1:14.5 | Woo. like everyone that comes on the show, like every American out there, we got $1.6 trillion |
| 1:12.5 | in credit card debt in this country, by the way. |
| 1:15.1 | Crazy amount. |
| 1:16.9 | Crazy amount. Yeah. That is really nuts. Yeah, it's crazy. All right out of 10 default. Yeah, it's absolutely insane. |
| 1:28.3 | But we have more auto loan debt in this country than credit cards too. |
| 1:32.3 | Really? |
| 1:33.3 | This is even crazier because Americans, you know, they're big pickup trucks and everything. |
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