So Sam Harris recently did an interview that has been a little viral that is being shared,

clips all over the place. And most people are sharing part of the video where he talks about

Trump and the Biden laptop. And that's not really what interests me so much. I'm sure a lot of people

will be commenting on that. But there's another little clip that is being shared

in which Sam Harris says that he's not going to make magical claims about a flying savior,

you know, coming down from heaven. And where is heaven exactly, given that we have all these

telescopes that are beaming back information from millions of years ago? Right. Like I'm not going to make magical claims about flying saviors who are literally going to

come down from where is heaven exactly, given that we have, you know, multiple telescopes

up there, you know, beaming back, you know, tens of billions of years worth of information. And so I was really

surprised to see something like that. I mean, I thought that Sam Ayers would have the generosity

to address things at the highest level of what it is that he's criticizing. But I reacted and said on Twitter, well, this is one

of the most embarrassing things I've heard in a while. But after I tweeted that, I thought about

it a little bit. And I started to think that maybe I should be a little more generous to Sam Harris

because there are people. There are people that think heaven is

something like what Sam he is suggesting it is and so I thought that it might be a good

idea to maybe address what is heaven where is heaven what it is that we're talking about

when we were talking about this and also why maybe some people will have a more,

we'll tend towards a more literalist interpretation of that

and why and what that could mean, even that.

So let's go.

So let's go. This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

So in order to understand what heaven and earth is, you really have to be able to step into an ancient person's perception.

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