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Hello everybody welcome to the Minimalist Podcast so we discuss what it means to live a meaningful

life with less. My name is Joshua Fields-Milburn and I'm Ryan Nicodemus and together we are the

Minimalist. Today we're going to talk about lifestyle clutter. We're going to talk about all the

extra things we do and the extraneous activities, obligations and tasks we commit to that make

our lives more complicated. And so why not have been Greenfield here to do that?

That's why returning champion is here. That's right. I love a very uncomplicated, uncluttered

life. So you make a perfect guest. Well I tell you what, on the surface, Ben, your

life does seem to be cluttered. If I were just to look at your surface, a lot of obligations,

a lot of things you do, you're very productive. But I think that you have to live an intentional

life, if not a minimal life even because the things that you do, when we talk about minimalism,

what we're really talking about is the intentional use of our resources. Part of that's our money,

but then our time, our attention, our energy, and you use all of those things intentionally.

You might use them differently from how Ryan and I would use them, but you use your resources

in a way that adds value to your life as opposed to being passive and just constantly pacifying

yourself with distractions. And so I want to obviously never seen me around a pile of

rib-eye steaks because I get distracted for a few hours. I would call it focused. Well,

we're here on the occasion. We're here on the occasion of your new book that came out

boundless. It is our books on top of yours. And my God, this is like, ramen, you need

your help picking this up. Just show it on YouTube. I feel like that book is anti-minimalist.

My apologies gentlemen. I broke all of your rules. You know what? I just, we just decluttered

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