Oh, that's right. It is 250. Look at us. As old as America. Oh, God, can we not? Should we have a UFC fight? I mean, you want to have a spurn at this fight? Okay, now we're in the show. Now we're in the show. Why do you do this to me? Okay, great. Because it's fun. Normally I'm the one who gets to pick at you to open the show. I don't like this turnabout. This turnabout is not, as they say, fair play. That's not true at all. It's only not fair play because you don't like it. Exactly. You know? Like, I don't do this to anyone else. No one else gets that. It's just you. That's because you love all your other co-hosts. Then it's just me. Well, I just think it's because they don't try and annoy me as much as you do. I don't know what you're talking about. I have no idea what I call you my most infuriating friend. Is that the phrase I used to you? Wait, what? Yeah, I guess so, actually.

I guess so. Although sometimes John is John to me.

But it's less often than it is to you.

Sometimes John sends me seven slack messages.

John never sends me one.

Of course.

It's always multiple because it's usually like you've said something bad.

I'm terrified for my future.

The amount of things John Suu Kus might have to say to me over the coming year.

We'll talk about that later.

We are going to talk about that.

John's going to have some words.

He's going to have some words for me, I think. He surely will. But you know what you can do if it were me because I'm a wuss? What I would do is I would just point the finger adjacent and be like, oh, it was his fault. Yeah, but it's, I'm going to say stuff. Because it's like, so like, we're talking a little bit about design in California. we'll talk about that later if you don't know what it means, but just the context.

Like, now everything is written. I'm saying things. We're saying things we're having conversations too, as well as things being researched. So stuff's going to get said, and John Syracuse is not going to like it. That is true. But what are you going to do? I think that this is part of the relay like onboarding is making John upset and having him fuss at you for some reason or another.

You know, I will not say publicly that there is a co-host, or not a co-host of mine or yours, for that matter, but a host on the relay network, and he and I will occasionally commiserate via text message about our worst best friend, which I believe is a term that he coined. Who could that be? I'm not going to narrow it down any further, Michael. That's the closest I'm going to get. There's two people, right?

Oh, no, three, actually.

It's three.

There's three people? Yeah, there is three people that could be. Yes. Well, anyway, occasionally, in the chat room, has figured it out for the record. Well, yes, everybody figured it out, Casey. Yes, yes, yes. we occasionally will commiserate about our worst best friend.

All right, let's properly start the show because we've got a lot to talk about.

Let's do some... Casey. Yes, yes, yes. We occasionally will commiserate about our worst best friend.

All right, let's properly start the show because we've got a lot to talk about. Let's do some follow-up. I have a whole bunch of follow-up, but it should be pretty quick for the most part. Oh, actually, breaking news before the follow-up. Can you open Kickstarter, please, Michael? Did it happen? I am looking at $100,000 and $196 pledged against your $40,000 goal.

We are teasing so heavily and being a little bit rude about it at this point. I apologize, but I didn't want to let the moment just pass. So we're reminding, reminding everyone, we were recording this my Tuesday morning, your Tuesday afternoon. But look at that. $100,000 designed in California and Apple History Podcasts. We will talk about that later, Mike. I've got chills. I got big time chills right now. I am genuinely pleased that I could be a part of this small moment. Well, congratulations. Well, that's the way to, we're ruining this show. This show is awful. It is destroyed at this point. It's a wreck. There is no show. It is just not working. Yeah, it's not going to work. But here, we're going to try to claw it from the jaws of defeat. I don't know where I'm going with this. But anyway, let's do some follow up. First of all, when we spoke last was the very beginning of May. It is now the beginning of June. Again, it's the second of June as we record. And before, we had spoken before I had gone, I believe, on a trip, or excuse me, right, after I'd gone on a trip with my parents to Pennsylvania. And that was a little bit tough. I want to give a quick data update. Just bear with me here because this is, I'm going to have a frown

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