Welcome to A Slub Comes Clean, the podcast. I'm Dana Kay White. I blog over at A Slub Comes Clean.com.

That's where I share my personal deslubification process. As I figure out ways to keep my own home under control,

I share the truth about cleaning and organizing strategies that actually work in real life for real people,

people who don't love cleaning and organizing. Thanks for joining me today. This is podcast number 250,

which is crazy to say, but okay. Yeah, 250 podcasts. That makes me laugh. Anyway, yes, I am calling this one decluttering with chronic illness.

I hope it's okay to say chronic illness, Liza. I hope it is. Anyway, chronic physical challenges. I'm not sure exactly how I'm going to say it,

but in this podcast, I am talking with Liza. She is one of our kindred spirits. If you want to find out more about how to be a kindred spirit,

go to patreon.patr.en.com slash a Slub Comes Clean. You can find out how to become a patron of the show that way.

Anyway, Liza is one of our patrons, and I've done several other strategy sessions with other patrons. This is what I'm doing with her.

I really appreciate it as we were talking about what's working for her before we got into just some of the challenges that she's facing and talking through those.

One of the things she talked about is how much she shares about very openly and scientifically and everything about the ongoing condition that she has in her unique situation.

And why it is that even though exhaustion is something that's a major challenge for her, the take it there right now is better for her than making piles of things to take later.

And I think that's real important because I, we all, I mean, me included, think that there's no way that it's better for my energy levels, even though I don't struggle with those challenges that she has.

But you know, there's no way that this makes sense for my energy to go ahead and take it there right now.

I would be so much more efficient to not do that instead. She just really explains why it's actually better for her to do that.

So, so I love that because it's kind of confirmation, you know, of what I've been telling you guys for like 250 podcasts. I'm sorry, I'm not mad. Anyway, no, I'm just kidding.

But I just love tearing that. But we also talk through just, you know, emotional attachment of her young son to his stuff and just her own, you just a lot of overthinking, which I think is a big part of the challenge for me for a lot of us.

So we really go into some different things and I think you're going to enjoy this podcast from her.

Yeah, okay. So here's Liza.

I am here with Liza. So we are talking, I want you to tell me your unique situation. Like what is your unique life situation, home situation, all that.

Okay, I must stay at home mom. But I have a disorder that works like Parkinson's. So at the beginning of the day, I take medicine to make my legs work in the way that my brain is telling them to, you know, move in the direction they're planning.

I was planning for them to anything like that and hands for him.

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