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My name Welcome to Michael and us. I'm Will Sloan. Here as always with Luke Savage, sitting across from my good buddy, Will Sloan, for only the second time now since March 2020. On a recent Patreon episode, a reunion show, we had our first in-person recording since March 2020 on a recent Patreon episode or reunion show we had our first

in-person recording since March of 2020 and this is the first time we've done that for one of the

free ups so it's good to be back Luke is sharing with me some beautiful what is what is this this is

like whiskey barrel-aged red wine which is something I discovered recently, and it's pretty good.

Never had it before.

Like it very much.

You know, on my way up to your apartment, I was in an elevator with another person for the first time in a year and a half.

And that was crazy.

I actually wasn't quite sure, like, what is proper elevator etiquette right now?

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