Hello everybody, here today I am with Lee Roy and Jen and I'm going to just give you

a little teaser read the back of Lee Roy's book out of the box. So out of the box is the

story of Lee Roy Smith who was sentenced to 25 years imprisonment for the shooting of

two police officers in Brixton in 1994. Out of the box will take you on a tour of the

gangster lands of London, New York and Kingston, Jamaica. I'm going to add Connecticut

into that in a minute. Before showing you inside the box that is the British prison system

today were all previous pecking orders criminal or political have been superseded by the

rule of the dean highly organized and disciplined Muslim convicts who answered in either gangster

nor governor but only through Allah. So but what makes this story even more fascinating

and adds to the redemptive quality is that I mentioned early on that he was sentenced

to 25 years for shooting two police officers but Lee Roy's book this book was read by one

of those police officers James Seymour and they now do talks together inspirational talks

and Lee Roy is campaigning for reformation of the justice system and he's also getting

out there and doing talks in the school so if anyone's interested in any of those links

for that work that he's doing they will all be in the description box below this video

so please don't hesitate to reach out to Lee Roy. Jen is hosting today and if you're interested

if you want to check her links out they're all down there as well and we are hoping that

we're going to be able to get James to do a second podcast with Lee Roy so we've got

the cop. Can't wait. Lee Roy together you know telling the story combined as well so huge

thank you for the book and huge thank you for coming on Lee Roy yeah total pleasure.

So I know you did some time in America as well we're going to get to all that absolutely

mind blowing what you've been through but let's just start with you know where you grew

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