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Have You Heard George's Podcast?

25. Who Hurt R&B?

Have You Heard George's Podcast?

BBC

Drama, History, Fiction

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

R&B music has changed. It was once the soundtrack of love, but is now more like a journal of pain. Through this music, George tracks the breakdown of the African American family since the 1970s. He discovers that higher poverty and incarceration rates among African Americans left a generation of children to fend for themselves. By the 1990s Gangsta rappers were displaying disrespect to women - and the market loved it and rewarded it. At the same time, Black women were pushing back through songs calling out immature men, and celebrating financial independence. Warning: This episode contains very strong language and language which may offend, as well as some adult themes. Credits: Written by George the Poet Produced by Benbrick and George the Poet Mixing, recording and editing by Benbrick. With music from: Ginuwine - Differences Jhené Aiko - P*$$Y Fairy (OTW) Kaash Paige - Love Songs George The Poet - Baby Father Cardi B - WAP (feat. Megan Thee Stallion) Megan Thee Stallion - Cash Shit (feat. DaBaby) Rick Ross - Sanctified (feat. Kanye West & Big Sean) Drake & GIVĒON - Chicago Freestyle Chris Brown - Loyal (Instrumental) Candi Staton - Young Hearts Run Free Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing) Whitney Houston - It’s Not Right But It’s Okay Dr Dre - Bi*****s Ain’t S**t Destiny’s Child - Bills, Bills, Bills Sunshine Anderson - Heard It All Before TLC - No Scrubs Jazmine Sullivan - Pick Up Your Feelings All original music is written by Benbrick and recorded by the BBC Concert Orchestra. Thank you to: My team: Sandra, Vidhu, and Birungi. Dylan Haskins and the team at BBC Sounds, BBC Concert Orchestra. Torrie Maas. My Common Ground team: Anne Whitehead, Darshan Sanghrajka, and Benbrick. Archive: The clips of Candi Staton used at 07:31, 08:05, 08:28 and 08:59 are taken from her interview with Paul Morley on Guardian Music. The clips of Jay-z used at 11:06 are taken from his interview on the Scandinavian talk show Skavlan, and his interview with Sway for MTV. The clip of Tupac used at 11:32 is taken from his BET Networks interview with Ed Gordon. The clip of 50 Cent used at 12:23 is taken from his interview with Larry King for Ora TV. The clip of Barack Obama used at 13:01 is taken from CBS News. The clip of Lauryn Hill used at 14:26 is taken from her 1998 BET Rap City interview. The clip talking about crack used at 20:05 is taken from the Glide Memorial Church conference “The Race Against Crack”. Have You Heard George’s Podcast? is a George the Poet production for BBC Sounds. Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Senior Producer: Alex Entwistle Commissioning Executive for BBC: Dylan Haskins

Transcript

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0:00.0

BPC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts

0:08.1

Yo, before we get started, I wanted to tell you I've made some special music mixes to

0:12.6

tie in with this series, and if you're in the UK, you can listen to these exclusively

0:17.8

on BPC Sounds.

0:19.9

This episode contains very strong language and language that may offend, as well as some

0:25.8

adult themes.

0:27.9

A long and welcome to episode 25 of Happy Hurt Georgia's Podcast.

0:35.6

When Sandra and I got engaged, we noticed something strange.

0:41.3

There wasn't much new R&B to listen to, because we were loved up, but people were singing

0:46.4

a different tune.

0:49.7

See, back in the day, R&B music was all about being in love, but something's happened

0:55.9

in the past 15 years, it's like everyone's seen enough.

1:01.2

Now when I'm looking for cheesy R&B, the closest thing to it is sleazy R&B.

1:13.4

Otherwise, if some can place R&B, or my situation shit did me greasy R&B, imagine my position.

1:27.8

I just want to relax with Bay, I just put a ring on a finger, so now I'm trying to fling

1:32.3

on a single, who's got some weird getting married kind of tracks to play.

1:39.1

But none of our favour R&B acts today, have anything like that to say.

1:44.2

It's not a criticism, just an observation.

1:50.8

My first EP was no different, I was heavily involved in the conversation.

1:57.7

Now even though R&B music is black, maybe this one isn't just a black issue, maybe the

2:04.2

whole world's going through the same thing, and I just hear it in the music I'm attracted

2:09.0

to.

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