Hello and welcome back to Control

Alt Delete. This is episode number 25. I'm your host Emma Gannon, the author of the book

Control Alt Delete How I Grew Up Online, which is out now. So really excited to

announce today's guest. It is Lori Penny.

Lori Penny, if you don't already know and haven't already googled her and read all of her work,

is a journalist, feminist, and author of five books including Unspeakable Things which was out in

2014 with Bloomsbury, Cybersexism which was out in 2013 and Meat Market in

2011. She is a contributing editor at New Statesman and she writes and speaks on

social justice, pop culture, gender issues and digital politics for The Guardian,

the New York Times, Vice, Salon, the new inquiry and many, many more.

She was also on the judging panel of this year's Bailey's Women's Prize for Fiction.

I'm also really enjoying Lori's work for Medium. If you look up welcome to the

Screen Room it's a medium thread all about politics in America at the moment so

I really recommend to check that out. So here's the interview we talk

about reading, about how writing is not actually as glamorous as we all think and also

what Lori's definition of successes.

I really enjoyed talking to her and I hope you really enjoy it too.

Here it is.

Oh this is exciting. I'm here with Lori Penny which is awesome. I'm so excited

for here. Well I'm in my house. I'm like here all the time like I'm excited that you are here all the time. I'm excited that you are here.

I'm really excited to at any point meet someone in real life

or I followed on Twitter for so long

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