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from Relay FM, this is Upgrade episode number 25.

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Square Space. Build It beautiful. My name is Mike

Curley today I have the pleasure as always of being joined by the man you pay to see

Mr Jason Snow. What do they pay and who do they pay it to? The Piper.

Hello I'm Michael as Marlon Mann refers to you. I listen to your first well not first but you're one you're inquisitive from with

Merlin as a service from last well I finally listen to it it's off of my playlist I I'm

I'm going through the deep cuts through the through the back catalog so I got that one out of the way.

That's the one where he sings the cotton song.

Man that's good stuff. Good stuff and he calls you I Michael throughout which I love

so hi I Michael. that was a long time

ago that one I think that was like October or something you were still working at your job but

had but had quit and actually talking about people leaving their jobs And actually

people leaving their jobs, that that actually led I had so I had

had breakfast a few weeks ago when I was down in LA with David Sparks of Mac Power Users and Mac Sparky and other sorts of things and

and legal profession fame and and we were talking about how David recently made a career change of his own,

and I thought that would be a fun reason to invite him as our third ever guest on upgrade.

So David, welcome.

Thank you, Jason, and I'm Michael.

It's actually kind of thrilling to be on the show. I listen to your show every week.

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