Hello and welcome to Out-Rasion Optimism'm Tom Rifik Karnak and I'm

Paul Dickinson and who's not here?

Dear Christina is not here at the beginning but she is here doing the interview so

she's part of this episode and today we're going to talk about the election

results in India what's happening in the UK election Trump's conviction and

we're going to speak to Ian Bremmer CEO of Eurasia Group friend of the

podcast thanks for being here. So Paul, so nice to see you this morning. It's 8 o'clock in the morning.

We're recording this brighten early on Wednesday the 5th of June.

Christina is not around at the moment.

She's out of service for a couple of weeks.

But she did record a brilliant interview yesterday

with Ian Bremmer, CEO of your Asia Group,

which will come to you later.

But just before we do, I thought it might be quite good for us to kick off.

Obviously, the big news story of the last week has been Trump's conviction on 34 felonies and that has all kinds of complex

and nuanced implications both for the world and for climate.

But it's not the only political thing that's been happening.

Actually there's been some, as we've said many times,

pretty consequential elections this year. And the big one that we've had news of in recent days is the

re-election of Modi in a rather diminished capacity as Prime Minister of India for another five years.

What do you make of that?

Well I think it's actually fantastically good news.

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