It's time for episode 249 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay FM recorded Tuesday, July 10th, 2018.

Clockwise, four people, that pushes it to the limit.

The time limit.

I am one of your hosts, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across this very internet by my dear pal and co-host Dan Morin. Hi, Dan.

Hi, Mike. Is this a good time to mention that we're changing the name of the show to 2 o'clock,

two whys? No, this is a perfect time. On a Tuesday, a day that is not the normal day. This is

the time to mention it. It's called burying the news. We're very

clever that way. Well, of course, you all know how this works. We've got two guests. We've

got four topics. It's going to be awesome. And I would like to introduce the person to my left.

It is Seattle Times columnist, author, and co-host of the photoactive podcast, Jeff Carlson. Hi, Jeff. Hi, thanks for

mentioning the podcast. Yeah, no problem. Of course. We're happy to have you here. I am thrilled to be

here. And to my left, it is one of my former colleagues from Macworld and the author of Take

Control of High Sierra. Shaleigh McFarland's back. Welcome back, Shali.

Thanks, Dan.

And the upcoming Take Control of Mojave.

I didn't want to be presumptuous, but I'm glad to hear it.

I can't wait to take control, but I'm going to take control of the show right now by getting into things.

I just got to pitch this morning for an AI trash can. Yeah, that's right.

We're getting trashy. This machine uses, quote, machine learning and, quote, neural nets to

sort between recyclables and refuse. So you drop in some trash, and then it sends things into

recycling, or it sends things into the

normal garbage bin. However, you can only drop in one thing at a time and sometimes it can't

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