Hello and welcome to the Squiggly Careers podcast. I'm one of your hosts Sarah and today rather

than chatting to Helen you're going to hear me in conversation with another Sarah and this is the

second in our ideas to inspire mini-series where really we've just used this as an excuse to invite

people who've really inspired

us onto the podcast and gives us free reign to chat to some people who we think you'd all

really benefit from learning from and listening to and we know that certainly we will

so let me just tell you a bit about Sarah and what we're going to talk about before we

dive into today's episode. So Sarah Stein

Greenberg is the executive director of Stanford Design School and the author of a book called

Creative Acts for Curious People. I read the book and contacted Sarah directly because it just

really stood out to me for a few reasons. It's not like many of the books that I've

spent time reading. The first one is it's a book full of exercises, examples and practical

tips. That sort of is the essence of the book. So no surprise probably that it appealed to us

because it felt very aligned with our approach to career development in terms of

trying to share things that you can use and that will be useful in your work, regardless of what

career you're in or how experienced you are. Secondly, I love the fact that the book features

lots of different people's work. So I felt like what Sarah has essentially done through the book

is not only shared

her own wisdom and insights, but she's also opened up all of her connections and collaborators

for us to all learn from. There's so much variety in the book. So even if one exercise isn't quite

right for you, the next one might feel really relevant. So I really liked the

going in different directions in the book and every exercise, every technique felt like it offered

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