It's horrendous that for years this went on, the scandal of our time.

The many problems for Kier Starrman over why he appointed Mandelson to that hugely important job.

Yeah. So many people knew about it, didn't they?

Manderson had no boundaries, no boundaries whatsoever.

So in terms of what happens next, we know that there's now in a criminal investigation into Peter Mandelson. But do you think there's going to be more that comes out?

Dahmer's misjudgment in not doing that looks very serious.

But the ramifications of this extend into every part of society.

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