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from Relay FM, this is upgrade episode 149 and today's show is brought to you by Lunar Display,

Pingham and Ero.

If you listen very carefully, you can hear the summer starting to begin, but it is not yet. But it it is soon my name is Mike Hurley and I'm joined by

My podcasting partner in crime mr. Jason Snow

Mike It's hard to believe that a week ago we sat across from each other and now we are back on opposite sides of the world.

Makes it makes me a little sad. It feels like it was both yesterday and a month ago.

It really does. Because literally everything has changed in the time in between when we spoke

last to now but well it had already changed but it continues to change but anyway

hashtag snow talk Steve wants to know.

Jason, when you were lining up for the W.W.C. keynote, did you cue with your friends

that you wanted to sit with or do you jockey for position to get as close to the front as you can?

So the developer line and the media line are different.

The developers are lining up very early in the morning. I think because they think it's fun or

because they want to get a better seat. I'm unclear how much better a seat you

get if you come. Well I think the only person you need to ask this question to is

John Sir Kiecousa because my understanding from all of our friends is nobody

wants to wait up that early but John does.

John does.

It's like a it's like a thing.

Anyway if you have a media badge you're told to come at 8 for the 10 o'clock event and at 8 you get there and they check you in and you we

chatted a bunch of us chatted and sort of outside the convention center and

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