#248 The Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict w/ Laurence Broers
The Road to Now
Benjamin Sawyer
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 26 September 2022
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Armenia and Azerbaijan were once fellow Republics within the USSR, but in the Soviet Union's last days tension between them led to bloodshed and animosity that continues today. For decades, Russia played the role of peacekeeper in the region, but Putin's invasion of Ukraine has opened the door for a new wave of Azerbaijani attacks on Armenia and both sides say the other is to blame. Laurence Broers has spent the last twenty years working as a scholar and peacemaker in the region, and has built relationships with leaders in both countries. In this episode, Laurence joins Ben for a conversation about the history of the conflict, the state of affairs today, and the impact that the international community has (and can) have on the people and politics of the region.
Dr. Laurence Broers is Associate Fellow at the Russia-Eurasia Program at Chatham House, and the author of the book Armenia and Azerbaijan: Anatomy of a Rivalry. You can follow him on twitter at @LaurenceBroers.
This episode was edited by Ben Sawyer.
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| 0:07.1 | I'm Ben Sawyer. |
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| 1:19.2 | That's right. |
| 1:21.7 | I'm Ben Sawyer, and this is The Road to Now. |
| 1:26.0 | Today's topic is one that's really important that I think has flown under the radar for most |
| 1:33.2 | Americans. |
| 1:33.8 | It is the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, two former Soviet republics, two countries |
| 1:41.3 | that have very clear ideas of a narrative that is based in an ethnic identity |
| 1:47.6 | and two countries where unfortunately we may be closer than we'd like to seeing more bloodshed |
| 1:54.6 | and I think the attention of the international community and certainly of Americans in general |
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