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Hello and welcome to another episode of Affirmative Murder, the equal opportunity true crime comedy podcast. I am Alvin Williams joined as always by my partner in true crime,

Fransell Evans, what up Fran? What's up man? Last week we dropped that town hall episode where we talked to some folks from the LGBTQ community and got their testimonies and a lot of their coming out stories and we talked to our good friend less for an hour and had a fantastic conversation.

And as always, but got real and talked about some real shit and I really enjoyed that and I just wanted to you know just highlight it and take a second to go. That's really that was really cool to hear that from people and to give people an opportunity to like speak those things that are on their mind and I would love to do that more often with all with all kinds of subjects you know again as I said on the episode itself like I don't know with those those subjects will will be in particular it could be it could be anything.

And that's what I think is dope about it you kind of find a broad subject that you know has a lot of nuance or has a lot of things that may not be known to people outside of that community and you just shut up yeah let those people explain it to you or tell it to you or you don't give give their testimony so we will continue to do more town halls in the future they're always so fun and what do you think about that you see like a lot of the reception that we I mean you know people people

Yeah man enjoy that episode yeah it's it's always it's always so informative always learn a lot whenever we do that especially from just different perspectives and people that's that's like what's on the ground yes have to deal with it everything look at life yeah so it's always loved doing that can we tell we do the next one I like how we choose to when we do announce it as we always organic when we pick and choose like what we're going to do whatever not just like pick a shit that's not important yeah

because I feel like that's the two what two or three we've done three three we've done of you know very important topics that you know that people need we need to be talking about yes discussions that need to be had conversations that need to be had uncomfortable truths that need to be spoken and that's what I enjoy about them most those town halls and we still find a way to like really engage and keep like keep it light and laugh with these people so that's the fun part yeah that's what I that's why I love conversation so much because you can have a serious conversation but you can you can have a

time to have a joke or like make a reference to something and now you just have any conversation with somebody while also talking about some really serious things and so it's always so fun to be able to do that with people who support the

podcast and have that moment of like you know really getting to know the people that listen because like you know we kind of had that that

realization for the first time a couple of years ago when we went to Austin Texas where it was like we just do this in my house man we do this in my house we don't know who's

listening we don't keep you know I don't know I don't keep track of the numbers all this I don't care right so when you actually go

and meet these people speak to them over the phone meet them in person and you hear them say like love the

podcast been listening whatever when you actually see the people who listen it's like it's just really like eye

opening thing and you get to kind of understand your audience and what those people are like and haven't had

a bad experience yet yeah everybody that we've met is like you're super cool of course you listen to this

podcast I think that's awesome to you listen to this podcast everybody that we've met spoken to over the phone everybody has great

energy they're always like the funniest coolest people in the world and so yeah man thanks to you guys like you guys are always super awesome

Fran I don't have much to talk about except I've kept my mouth shut in this for like the last three weeks but it's finally come to an end and so I

will discuss it for a minute because it was a hell of a circus and I'll suggest you go down the rabbit hole that I went down

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derrell brooks derrell brooks I don't know which one it is but um

in 2020 I believe it was 2020

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