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Gotta say I'm feeling a little self-conscious because I cut my hair one more time

because barbershops still aren't open here or maybe they maybe they're opening very soon.

I don't know. I don't think it turned out too well. I don't know. I think you look as handsome as

Matt Gates. I bet you say that to all the boys.

Well, everyone, welcome back to Michael and us. As always, I'm Luke Savage. And with me is Will Sloan. Thank you very much.

It's a few things I want to talk about off the top. I watched a movie last night, actually kind of thinking I was doing field research, perhaps watching a documentary

that we could do on a future episode. I don't think I'd like to do this one. It's called

Agents of Chaos by a great filmmaker when we've talked about a few times on the show, Alex

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