What's up everybody? This is Cortland from AndyHackers.com and you're listening to the

EndieHackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of

money in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these end hackers to discuss the ideas,

the opportunities and the strategies they're taking advantage of so the rest of us can do the same.

So I'm here with Drew Riley and Greg Eisenberg, two people who have both been on the indie hackers podcast.

Drew is the founder of Trends.VC.

One of my favorite newsletters,

Drew, you cover basically every thinkable market and trend and idea and you do this

super deep dive breakdown of it, and it's super useful. Greg is the founder of late checkout,

and also the co-host a new podcast called The Room Where It Happens,

which is also kind of like a community as well. It's not just a podcast. And Drew's got the same

thing going on with his newsletter. So I guess in a way, like all three of us are like media

and community. And I don't know, I think it'd be interesting just to drift with you guys on

some of these topics. I think actually, actually, I shouldn't say I think I know that late checkout pays for trends

up VC.

So we're paying, me too.

I'm a paying customer as well.

Awesome.

Thank you guys.

So I'm curious about you guys is this concept of like an information diet where you got your food diet, you get food from whatever source. Some people are vegetarians. Some people will eat a lot of meat like me. It's also the information diet, right? Like where do you get your information from? Where do you guys learn? And I follow you both on Twitter. I listen to your podcast, Greg. I read their newsletter, Drew. I'm curious where you guys learn about all the stuff that you put out. Because I have my sources and sometimes I feel like it's lacking. And I want to know other people who are smart, like learn about what's going on and keep your to the ground. So what's your guys, what's your guys information diet like? I'll go first. My go-to medium, our podcast, I use a player called Castro and they just allow you to build cues. So I just go through

those cues and I don't stick to one podcast as it falls in the queue. It gets prioritized and I just

flow through there. Threex speed. What do you do while you listen to podcasts?

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