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So, Dave, you were telling me right before the show that you are now retiring because you got an impromptu phone call and bet hundreds of millions of dollars on oil prices going down. Congratulations.

It was a good bet. It just wasn't timed right. I thought you got it in on time. I thought you got it in like...

Yeah. I thought you got it in like five minutes early. I did not. I did not. But how is there not a massive investigation to that right away?

Didn't someone make like $1.8 billion in like five minutes?

Yeah, there's a lot of those, like trades like that that should be investigated that kind of never are.

Bro.

How about, what's his name, Lutnik?

Yeah, how about that one?

He's, so he's, the tariffs one?

Working for the administration and also standing to gain huge if people can sue over the tariffs, right?

Well, explain the whole thing.

Do you know how to, do you know the actual details of it? No, I don't really know the details.

So essentially he was telling everybody that, you know, don't sweat it, the tariffs are golden, we're getting them through, there's going to be no problems. Is that what it was? But in meanwhile, he was shorting the tariffs? Yes. Yeah, so he was personally shorting them, while promoting them. That actually is so we don't get sued.

I bet he's a quite litigious gentleman.

Yeah, he might be.

Sorry. Yeah, so he was personally shorting them. Let's find out what that actually is so we don't get sued. Sure, sure, sure.

I bet he's a quite litigious gentleman. Yeah, he might be. See if we could find it. I got something. I don't know what that means there. Like, is it a while the people who are on the files, visit the island, and then they still work? It was unbelievable. Some people had to resign from some jobs. Well, especially just him because he so the way, there's something about a really confident liar, like, where they just, because I mean, that, that interview clip where he's like, let me tell you something, I met Jeffrey Epstein that one time, he had a massage table. He said they were sex massage tables. I went right back to my wife and I said, honey, we are never hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein again. And that is that. Is that really the quote? I haven't seen that. I don't

know if it's verbatim, but that is the exact spirit of it. I would be pretty verbatim. Let's listen

to it. Listen to it. I'm very, very close to exactly what he said. Okay. Letnick this one again? What was this one? Let Nick interview about Epstein. And he just sounds, I mean, so, like, morally outraged about the idea. There's so many people that they exist in that world where you just pretend that you're a different person. You pretend you're one way. Yeah. You pretend you think things differently.

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