247: Michael De La Pena - Polygraph Examiner, Boston Marathon Bombing Associate

FBI Retired Case File Review

Jerri Williams

True Crime, Interviews, Fiction, History, Fbi, Government, Truecrime

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🗓️ 16 December 2021

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Retired agent Michael De La Pena reviews his polygraph examination of Robel Phillipos, a friend of one of the Boston Marathon bombers, convicted of lying to authorities investigating the terrorist act. During the bombings, orchestrated by brothers Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, three people were killed and more than 260 injured. Mike also reviews the training and duties of a good polygraph examiner.

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0:00.0	Welcome to episode 247 of FBI Retired Case Fall Review with Jerry Williams.
0:13.5	I'm a retired agent on a mission to show you who the FBI is and what the FBI does through
0:20.0	my award-winning books, blog and podcast case reviews with former colleagues.
0:26.3	Today, we get to speak to retired agent Michael Dela Penia, who served in the FBI for nearly 30 years.
0:35.5	During his career, Mike became a certified hostage negotiator and undercover operative
0:42.5	and trained as a polygraph examiner at the Department of Defense Polygraph Institute.
0:49.6	He has more than 16 years of polygraph service conducting approximately 2,500 exams across the
0:58.5	United States, Central and South America and Iraq. In this episode, Mike reviews his polygraph
1:06.8	examination of Robelle Philippos, a friend of the Boston Marathon bombers who was convicted of
1:15.1	lying to authorities investigating the terrorist act that killed three people and injured more
1:22.0	than 260. Mike also reviews the training and duties of a good polygraph examiner. Mike was assigned
1:30.9	to the New Haven, San Juan and Boston divisions where he investigated bank robberies,
1:36.6	armored car robberies, civil rights investigations, fugitive matters and terrorist cases,
1:42.6	and where he worked for six years on an anti-narcotic squad before becoming a full-time examiner.
1:50.7	He is the author of the Coyote Wars trilogy and FBI suspense series featuring a family of
1:58.4	domestic terrorist and the polygraph examiner who discovers her plot to bring the country to its
2:04.3	knees. Mike currently works as a private polygraph examiner for Orsec LLC, a private security company.
2:13.8	Mike has been a featured speaker on polygraph cases and concepts for the American Polygraph
2:20.0	Association. Now in order to review this case against a friend of the younger brother of the
2:26.9	Boston Marathon bombers, Mike provided a short review of the overall Boston Marathon bombing case.
2:34.5	However, I am pleased to announce that I recently conducted a full-case review of the terrorist
2:41.4	attack in Boston, which I will post on January 12, 2022. So stay tuned for that. During the interview,
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