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Mr. Paul, so good to see you again.

Hey, good to be back.

Consciousness.

So, this new book, what inspired it?

What got you to, I mean, you've kind of explored consciousness a little bit with your...

Psychedelic book, yeah.

How to Change Your Mind.

Well, actually, this book was inspired by the research I did for that book.

As you know, I had several research trips.

Do you do air quotes when you say research?

Yes.

And two things happen that were really interesting.

One is there's something about psychedelics that makes you think about consciousness. It's you know, it's like smudging the windscreen,

the windshield that you normally, is perfectly transparent and you see the world through. Suddenly

it's like different and you realize there's something between me and the world. And what is it?

And that's consciousness. And so like a lot of people who've done psychedelics, you start wondering about this mystery.

Why is it this way, not that way?

So that was one experience. The other was I had an experience in my garden in Connecticut, where we have a house,

of walking through my garden and getting the powerful impression that the plants

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