Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. So you had a pile of notes, and then you just folded them up. Like, did you commit them to memory? No, I've just these two things. I have the links I sent you guys. Oh, okay. And just some stuff there. I just saw the pieces of paper that you folded. I was like, what's in there? How did, first of all, I want to talk you through, like, when you were a younger man before you had looked into this, what was your opinions on medical science? What was your opinions on vaccines? Were you skeptical? Or did you just kind of assume that everything that we're told is exactly how it is? And the experts have only the best interests of human beings in mind and not money.

I had what you would effectively call the mainstream view. The vaccine saved humanity. Me too. We'd all be dead without them.

You know, there was the Bible given it to Moses at Sinai, and then there were vaccines.

Yeah.

That's basically, you know.

I think it's anybody that didn't consider themselves a fool.

You know, you would have to be a fool, like a real fool

to ignore all this medical science, which is the reason why there's so many people alive today

that would have died. And a lot of that's true, like penicillin, antibiotics. There's a lot of stuff

that's saved a lot of people's lives. But the vaccine won. Until this COVID epidemic, I would have never questioned it. I mocked anti-vaxxers. I was like, these people are silly. Don't they know all the good things that vaccines have done? And there's just a blatant propaganda that we were force-fed like one of those ducks are trying to make fogwa with. It just made me stop and pause and go, is the whole thing like this?

Is this whole thing just a dirty money laundering operation?

Because it kind of seems like that's at least part of the reason why they were telling people to get boosted when they knew it wasn't working and telling young people that didn't need it to.

They wanted to make a lot of money.

That's the only reason why you would do any of those things after a certain amount of

information is out.

And so it just made me stop and think about the whole thing and go, well, why would I assume

that this is the one area where pharmaceutical

drug companies, doctor, everybody's been totally honest in this one area when it's like a religious

thing if you question it. And that's the, well, I love the title of your book. Yes. Vaccines Amen.

Yeah.

The religion of vaccines.

You, it's, that's what it is.

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