Hello, I'm Edward October.

Over the years I've narrated more ghost stories, horror shows, and creepy pastas than I can count.

And yet, the crimes discussed on our true crime podcast managed to scare the shit out of me. This program is not

suitable for children or the faint of heart. If you are such a person go ahead and

switch off this podcast. Listen to something else.

Are you still with us?

Well, we've warned you. So, Hey, Kim, how you doing? I'm doing pretty good. How are you? I'm doing pretty good. How are you?

I'm all right. I got a little head cold but you know get a little under the weather. Yeah, just a little bit thanks to my husband but whatever I hear you've got a good case for us today. I do it's a it a it's something you know we always talk about on the show

about how does somebody what happens to make somebody do what they do like are they

born that way do they just just snap? That kind of thing. So I'm going to tell you the story and then we'll discuss it and see what you think. You ready?

Awesome, let's get to it. Yep.

Yep. November 11th, 2010 in Mount Vernon, Ohio when a phone call comes into the police.

On the line is Valerie Haythorn.

Now she's the manager of the nearby Dairy Queen who is concerned that her employee 32 year old Tina Herman has not

shown up to work today or the previous day.

Now this is totally unlike Tina's character who's always been varied dependable.

Valerie tells police that she was so worried that she drove out to Tina's house to check on her

and in fact she's there now as she's phoning the police.

She informs police that she went inside the house via a back window.

Now Valerie lives in the home with her two children, 13 year old Sarah and 11 year old Cody, as well as the The officer of course tells her hey back out go back outside don't touch anything and we are on our way

Once officers are on the scene they encounter a blood bath. The problem is that although there was

blood everywhere there were no bodies. It was as if the family had simply

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