Hi everybody Cheryl Ackison

Cheryl Ackison here.

Welcome to another edition of the Cheryl Ackison Podcast.

Today, the Great Awakening of Vaccine Investigators,

former Big Tech Executive Stephen Persh. Kirsch. This is a fascinating conversation with former big tech exec Steve Kirsch and how he went from dutifully getting his COVID vaccines to becoming

a vaccine investigator who was unearthed and analyzed important data from around the world.

I'll let him around the world.

I'll let him tell the story.

Give us a couple of paragraph description

of how you came to this issue. And who you were before and who you are now.

Yeah, so before I became a journalist I was a high-tech CEO and I was running my company and my company was more or less shut down due to COVID and I was looking for how do I

minimize the downtime here what can I do to help?

And so I talked to scientists, they said early treatments

with repurposed drugs is the fastest, cheapest

and safest way to end the pandemic. So I put my energies into that because I noticed

the government wasn't at all and you couldn't convince them to look at that, even though that's the most obvious thing and clearly it's worth there have been so many things that have been effective.

And I applied for an EUA on one of the drugs we discovered that worked and was turned down saying insufficient evidence which floored me because you'd have to be incompetent or corrupt not to have approved this under EUA.

Which drug?

Fluoxamine.

It was featured on 60 minutes. And so then I still trusted the FDA. I thought the FDA was, wow, they're like really

strict if they think or they're really stupid or incompetent. But I thought they were on the level, right? Because everybody was saying,

oh, these vaccines are safe and

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