Imagine building a $100 million brand, writing a bestselling book, and have a Netflix series made about your life, and then burning it all to the ground. If you've been playing small, trying to avoid failure, or disappointing the people in your life, this episode is for you. Because you can get the life you want, but you're going to have to disappoint some people to get it. We're joined today by Sophia Amaruso, founder of Nasty Gal and the original

hashtag Girl Boss. The worst look is saying you're going to do something and not doing it. It's a better

look to do it and fail. She is now a successful investor and entrepreneur with her two businesses,

trust fund and business class. Being yourself gives other people permission to be themselves,

taking like big swings, gives other women the

opportunity to do the same thing. We have a very unfiltered conversation about what success really

looks like, about reinvention and failure, especially after what might feel like your life

completely falling apart. Doing it and blowing is like a way better story than being that person

that just fucking navel gazes.

We talk about the rise and fall of nasty gal, everything she wished she knew about being a good leader,

and how she's found a new form of freedom by doing business her way.

The thing about people knowing your name is it's like less interesting that they know your name.

It's more interesting that there's something to do with your name.

She also gets real about surviving

public scrutiny and also having the very book and so much of her identity kind of be mocked by society.

Not everybody's going to like what you do. And like, I'm not the thing that I wrote in 2013.

But also how to walk away from things, even though they might feel, quote unquote, successful, but not aligned with what you actually want to do. And of course, we talk about Girl Boss. We talk about how it started a decade ago and where it is now. There is one guarantee in life, and it's that you're going to come up against failure time and time again. But it's how you handle it and how you respond that builds your

resiliency and makes you not only a better business owner, but a better person in general. I learned

so much from this episode, even as somebody running my own multi-million dollar business. And I

think if you have been fed this belief about what success should look like and it's always felt

different to you, you're going to feel very, very seen by

this episode. So let's get into it. But first, a word from our sponsors. This podcast is brought to you

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