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#246 - AMA #45: Pros and cons of GLP-1 weight loss drugs and metformin as a geroprotective agent

The Peter Attia Drive

Peter Attia, MD

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Fitness

4.7 • 7.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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In this “Ask Me Anything” (AMA) episode, Peter focuses the discussion on two topics getting a lot of attention recently. He first dives deep into GLP-1 agonists, most notably semaglutide and tirzepatide, which originally came to market as diabetes drugs but are now being studied and prescribed for weight loss. He walks through the data and compares the effectiveness of the two drugs, the side effects, and perhaps more importantly, his reservations around wide use of these drugs and who he would consider to be a candidate for them. Next, Peter discusses how metformin, another drug originally brought to market for diabetes management, gained popularity as a potential longevity drug even for non-diabetics. Peter gives his take on this possibility and reviews data from a more recent study investigating the question of whether metformin should be used for general “geroprotection.”

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We discuss:

  • The hype around semaglutide, tirzepatide, and other GLP-1 agonists for weight loss [2:30];
  • Overview of GLP-1 agonists and why these drugs are getting so much attention [6:15];
  • Defining the term “geroprotective” [13:30];
  • Semaglutide: background, brand names, indications, and more [15:15];
  • Tirzepatide: background, brand names, indications, and more [19:15];
  • How semaglutide and tirzepatide compare in their efficacy in terms of weight loss and other metabolic health metrics [23:45];
  • Data showing sustained weight loss and improved metabolic metrics with after more than a year of using semaglutide and tirzepatide [29:00];
  • What happens to body weight when a patient discontinues the medication? [34:45];
  • Noteworthy side effects of GLP-1 agonists and similar classes of drugs [40:45];
  • Increased resting heart rate and other concerning trends in patients using GLP-1 agonists [45:15];
  • Changes in body composition (body fat and lean muscle) in patients on GLP-1 agonists [50:45];
  • Possible reasons for the loss of lean muscle mass and tips for protecting lean mass [59:00];
  • GLP-1 agonists and thyroid cancer [1:01:30];
  • Who might be a candidate for GLP-1 agonists? [1:03:45];
  • The large financial cost of this class of drugs [1:08:30];
  • Metformin as a geroprotective drug: origin of the idea that metformin could be a longevity agent even for non-diabetic patients [1:11:30];
  • A 2022 study on metformin sheds more light on the question of whether metformin should be used for “geroprotection” in non-diabetics [1:21:00];
  • Peter’s current approach with metformin for his patients [1:25:15]; and
  • More.

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, welcome to a sneak peek, ask me anything, or AMA episode of the Drive Podcast.

0:16.5

I'm your host, Peter Atia.

0:18.3

At the end of this short episode, I'll explain how you can access the AMA episodes in full,

0:22.9

along with a ton of other membership benefits we've created.

0:26.0

Before you can learn more now by going to peteratia-md.com forward slash subscribe.

0:31.5

So without further delay, here's today's sneak peek of the Ask Me Anything episode.

0:36.6

Welcome to Ask Me Anything, AMA episode number 45 and once again, joined by Nick Stenson.

0:46.0

In today's episode, we focus on two topics, both of which are getting a lot of questions

0:50.4

lately.

0:51.4

The first is GLP1 Agonists.

0:54.6

Notably, Semaglutide, also known as Ozempik and Wigovii, and Terzepatide.

1:00.1

These weight loss drugs are all the rage right now, and there is probably not a day that

1:04.5

goes by where someone isn't asking me my thoughts on them.

1:07.5

So in the first part of this episode, we dive very deep into these, what they are, their

1:11.9

differences, how they're marketed, how they came to market, meaning what we learned about

1:17.4

them when they were just being used as diabetes drugs, what we know about them clinically because

1:22.0

we've been using these drugs sparingly for about three years.

1:27.1

Most importantly, I think where my reservations are, and I do have many reservations that

1:32.0

I discuss here.

1:33.4

If you're thinking about taking these drugs, if you're taking these drugs, if you're curious

1:36.8

about this episode is for you.

1:39.7

The second part of this podcast, we go a little deeper into Metformin.

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