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Be the Bridge Podcast with Latasha Morrison

245 - Rediscipling the White Church with Pastor David Swanson

Be the Bridge Podcast with Latasha Morrison

Be the Bridge

Education

4.9774 Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2022

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

If you’ve ever wondered about the term and concept of whiteness, if you’ve ever wondered how there can be such differences between white Christians and Black Christians, if you’ve ever wondered about how reconciliation and justice play a role in spiritual maturity, this conversation is for you. Pastor David Swanson joins Latasha Morrison to talk through the biblical exegesis and cultural exegesis of racial righteousness and discipleship. Their deep discussion is covered in the beauty and necessity of truth, of hospitality, of perseverance. This episode will leave you with a better understanding of how we got to where we are in the American church context and with hope for the days to come.

Host & Executive Producer - Latasha Morrison
Senior Producer - Lauren C. Brown
Producer, Editor, & Music - Travon Potts
Transcriber - Sarah Connatser

Quotes:
“What would it look like for a majority white ministry or church to take seriously the call to discipling Christians, so that they stand more and more in solidarity with the whole body of Christ, so that our witness to Jesus could be that much more powerful?” -David Swanson

“This is profoundly spiritual work that we do. As much as we need other resources and tools, at the end of the day this is a work that only the Spirit of God can accomplish.” -David Swanson

“If we're going to do this well in a healthy manner, we're going to have to directly and regularly confront whiteness. We will have to name it, we'll have to talk about what it looks like, we'll have to talk about how it manifests in very specific ways. But we'll have to do that in a way that doesn't just quote, unquote, educate white people, but actually is good news to the people of color in the room as well.” -David Swanson

“When we see each other as God sees us, we wouldn't see our differences as something that sets us against one another, but something that brings us together and causes beauty that points back to God.” -Latasha Morrison

Links:Ad for Charity Water: CharityWater.org/BridgePastor David Swanson: dwswanson.com/
twitter.com/davidswanson
facebook.com/PastorDavidWSwanson/
instagram.com/david.w.swanson/

David Swanson’s Rediscipling the White Church: ivpress.com/rediscipling-the-white-churchNew Community Covenant Church: newcommunitycovenant.com/

Be the Bridge:  BeTheBridge.com
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Latasha Morrison: latashamorrison.com/ facebook.com/LatashaMMorrison instagram.com/latashamorrison/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Be the Bridge, Be the Bridge.

0:01.3

You are listening to The Be The Bridge podcast with Latasha Morrison.

0:06.0

What are you guys doing today?

0:08.7

It's exciting.

0:09.4

Each week, Be The Bridge podcast tackles subjects related to race and culture with the goal of bringing understanding.

0:16.9

But I'm going to do it in the spirit of love.

0:19.4

We believe understanding can move us toward racial healing, racial equity, and racial unity.

0:25.0

Latasha Morrison is the founder of Be the Bridge,

0:27.8

which is an organization responding to racial brokenness and systemic injustice in our world.

0:34.0

This podcast is an extension of our vision to make sure people are no longer conditioned by a racialized society but grounded in truth.

0:42.1

If you have not hit the subscribe button, please do so now.

0:45.6

Without further ado, let's begin today's podcast.

0:48.8

Oh, and stick around for some important information at the end.

1:02.0

Be the Bridge community. welcome to another episode of the Be the Bridge podcast. I wanted, when I first got on the call with this gentleman, I wanted to say, finally, it worked out.

1:14.1

But this is someone that I've wanted to have on the podcast for a while to really do some

1:24.2

continued discipleship work in this, this, this, this, this work of racial justice.

1:31.3

And this person has written a book. And I wanted to introduce it for those of you who may

1:37.7

not know him. You need to know him. And you need to buy his book. Pastor David Swanson.

1:46.0

So it's so great to have you here.

1:49.1

And so you guys, so you know a little bit about Pastor David Swanson.

1:53.3

He is the pastor of New Community Covenant Church, a multicultural congregation in Chicago's Bronzeville neighborhood.

2:02.6

He helps lead new community outreach, a nonprofit that collaborates with the community

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