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Politicon.com slash merch. Well, we have a lot to talk about in this show, a lot, including the DOJ and utter disarray, the Supreme Court,

essentially letting Trump kill the Department of Education, even though it seems pretty illegal to do so.

And we can't get through the show without talking about the latest in the ongoing Epstein drama. But first, I wanted to

talk to you guys. You know, there's been a couple of events I've attended or participated in where

there are young people, some of whom are considering law school. And they, you know, ask my advice

about whether they should do it. And in the past, I had my sort of standard answer, you know, only do it if you know what you

want to get out of it and, you know, weigh the benefits and costs, including money.

But now, just with everything that we're about to talk about in this show, including just how

constitutional law in many ways isn't even constitutional law anymore.

Has that changed? Like either the advice you give to young people about law school or Barbara Joyce,

what you say to your students? I mean, it must be a weird time for law schools, yeah? What about you, Barb?

Yes, but I'll tell you what. I think that the need for lawyers has never been greater. It may be

that people are kind of reconsidering what they do. You know, people used to ask me in the first Trump

administration, for example, is this still a good time to go work at the Justice Department? And I would say,

absolutely, people at entry level are learning. You're not going to be doing anything political anyway,

go right ahead. Now that we're in this other term, I think things are very different there. And so I'm not

sure I would advise anybody to go into the Justice Department right now, but there's still so much important legal work to do, challenging some of these Trump Justice Department and executive branch policies. So there's important work to be done in the private sector, in the nonprofit sector, defending immigrants in immigration cases. So we need good lawyers, I think, more than ever

before. And so I urge young people to consider law school now maybe more than ever.

Yeah. Well, Joyce, how about you? What is what you tell young people changing or is the way

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