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We Can Do Hard Things

244. Stop Carrying Other People’s Pain with Chloé Cooper Jones

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Where do you go to escape the pain of reality? Today, author Chloé Cooper Jones shares: The survival strategy many of us use to retreat from our lives and how to become more present; How she grapples with the world dehumanizing her disabled body; Why desire and disgust are so connected – and what they teach us; and The thing Chloé wants most – to be seen as inherently whole – and how to get it. About Chloé: Chloé Cooper Jones is a professor, journalist, and the author of the memoir Easy Beauty, which was named a best book of 2022 by The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, TIME Magazine, and was a finalist for the 2023 Pulitzer Prize in Memoir. She was also a Pulitzer Prize finalist in Feature Writing in 2020. She lives in Brooklyn, New York. TW: @CCooperJones IG: @chloecooperjones To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

To be loved, we need to be known.

0:07.6

Hi everybody, welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things.

0:10.8

I am already excited to hear what you are going to say to us after you listen to this episode

0:18.6

with Chloe Cooper Jones.

0:22.8

Lots of talk about being present and being mindful in all of this in the world.

0:28.4

A lot of talk about why we don't do that, about why we dissociate from the moment of

0:36.6

our lives for good reasons, and how we can rearrange our minds so that sometimes we can

0:53.6

be brave enough to try to be present.

0:58.5

For me, this conversation was life-changing, Chloe's brilliance has helped me figure

1:06.3

out why I dissociate and how to bring myself back to my people in my life.

1:13.6

Listen, tell us what you think, enjoy.

1:19.1

I actually just ordered another one, if I could just show you, there's just so many notes

1:23.3

in writing in it, and then I wanted to have one that's pure for other people to read.

1:27.7

It's really, really beautiful, and let me just introduce the post.

1:31.8

Yeah, let's listen.

1:32.8

This is Chloe Cooper Jones.

1:35.0

Chloe is a professor, a journalist, and the author of the memoir Easy Beauty, which was

1:39.8

named a best book of 2022 by The New York Times, The Last Angeles Times, The Washington Post,

1:46.8

I'm magazine, and was a finalist for the 2023 Pulitzer Prize in memoir.

1:52.0

So babe, that's like an S.B., that's like a FIFA world player of the year.

1:56.8

That's like the best you can get.

1:58.8

That's my jam.

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