To be loved, we need to be known.

Hi everybody, welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things.

I am already excited to hear what you are going to say to us after you listen to this episode

with Chloe Cooper Jones.

Lots of talk about being present and being mindful in all of this in the world.

A lot of talk about why we don't do that, about why we dissociate from the moment of

our lives for good reasons, and how we can rearrange our minds so that sometimes we can

be brave enough to try to be present.

For me, this conversation was life-changing, Chloe's brilliance has helped me figure

out why I dissociate and how to bring myself back to my people in my life.

Listen, tell us what you think, enjoy.

I actually just ordered another one, if I could just show you, there's just so many notes

in writing in it, and then I wanted to have one that's pure for other people to read.

It's really, really beautiful, and let me just introduce the post.

Yeah, let's listen.

This is Chloe Cooper Jones.

Chloe is a professor, a journalist, and the author of the memoir Easy Beauty, which was

named a best book of 2022 by The New York Times, The Last Angeles Times, The Washington Post,

I'm magazine, and was a finalist for the 2023 Pulitzer Prize in memoir.

So babe, that's like an S.B., that's like a FIFA world player of the year.

That's like the best you can get.

That's my jam.

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