Oh, hello people in podcast land. Welcome back. I am coming to you from a very hot and sunny

Dubai, but don't be jealous. I'll be back in the UK soon. And the podcasts are still

coming. Your boy is getting it done while he's in the United Arab Emirates. Today's guest

is Diana Rogers. She is part of a pro meat eating movement, which I'm seeing increasingly

more and more at the moment. Chris Cresser had that famous debate on Jorugan with the

guy from the what the health, what the health game changes, game changes documentary. And

today we get to go into even more of the information around why eating meat is important.

I am still unconvinced about the philosophical case for not being a vegan. Alex O'Connor

has really, really read pilled me on that. The cosmic skeptic, my good buddy. However,

in nutritional case that Diana puts forward today and the environmental one is quite compelling.

Her film Sacred Cow is out on November 22nd. And I'm certain that that release is going

to spark another flurry of debates around this topic. So educate yourself. Make sure that

you understand both sides of the argument. And I think that there's some really interesting

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