Welcome to Beyond the Ring, a podcast that covers all things in the stock show industry from the informative to the insane, starring Ryan Rash.

In honor of me seeing wicked, everyone deserves the chance to fly.

And Dale Hummel.

Clearly state your reasons.

It's the foundation of trust and understanding.

Now on with the show.

Welcome to Beyond the Ring.

This is Dale Hummel, along with co-star Ryan Rash.

Hello, hello, hello.

Ryan, there is so much.

And you have been in New York for like a month.

So let's start there.

Did you go see the bloodstain? No, that was literally like a month. So let's, let's, let's, let's start there. Did you go see the bloodstain?

No, that was literally like two blocks from our hotel, but for the first two days, you couldn't get down there.

Because we had to reroute wherever we were going around the crime scene or whatever, but no, I did not.

I, like I was telling Clifton and Dale before we got on here to record, the craziest thing about all this, I mean, there's so many different opinions on why this happened.

But, like, in New York this time of year, and I am assuming most times a year, but definitely Christmas, like, the tree got lit,

while we were there, all these things. You're either a tourist, or you live and work there.

There's really no in between. And no one was discussing this in the city. Like I said, it happened

two blocks from our hotel. No one was talking about it.

It, like, it didn't even happen. I was stunned. I'm going to assume the hotel people are not

wanted. That's not something you want to bring to light. No, but my family talked to like bystanders

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