243. Linda Clair

Buddha at the Gas Pump

Rick Archer

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Spirituality

4.7 • 737 Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2014

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Linda was born in Sydney in 1958. She had virtually no interest in meditation or spiritual matters until at the age of 37 she was introduced to Peter Jones, an enlightened man who became her first teacher. This meeting was an intense experience for her. There was a depth to the communication she had not experienced before, and it triggered a search for freedom, which was soon the major focus of her life. At this time she had two teenage children and was running a small business, but she managed to make time for intensive meditation. In 1997 she had a profound awakening during a ten-day retreat in northern New South Wales with Peter Jones. She later described the experience as ‘deeper than bliss’. She meditated with Peter Jones whenever she could, and also regularly spent time with the enlightened teacher Barry Long. During this time she met the Japanese Zen Master, Hogen Yamahata, who also impressed her with his deeply enlightened presence and humility. Early in 2003 Peter told Linda that she would reach the depth of enlightenment with or without a teacher. She still had a strong desire for extended periods of meditation practice, and at that time Peter was not able to offer this, so she started attending retreats led by Hogen Yamahata. For the next two years she practised with Hogen-san and attended his Zen retreats as often as possible. She was also in close contact with Peter. In 2004 she travelled to Japan and spent six weeks at a Zen monastery with Hogen-san’s Master, Harada Tangen Roshi, known as Roshi Sama. Her time with him was intense. She sensed she was close to the culmination of her journey. She returned to Australia in a deeply detached, peaceful state. Roshi Sama gave her the name Dai’an Jishin, which translates as ‘deep peace, compassionate heart/mind’. Her search ended during a ten-day retreat with Hogen-san at Springbrook, in the mountains behind the Gold Coast in Queensland. Website: simplemeditation.net Summary and Transcript of this interview Interview conducted 8/2/2014 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Linda Clare 00:04:26 - The Fear of Becoming Enlightened 00:08:09 - Confronting Fear and Enlightenment 00:12:40 - Facing fear and discomfort during meditation 00:16:30 - The Journey to Enlightenment 00:19:22 - The Shock of Awakening and Adjusting to the Absolute State 00:23:33 - Anesthesia and Enlightenment 00:26:29 - The Desire for Enlightenment 00:30:26 - Expanded Awareness and Perception 00:34:15 - The Whirlwind of Amma's Activity 00:37:41 - The Necessity of Meditation and Relationship with a Teacher 00:41:40 - The Shock of Realization and the Need for Preparation 00:46:06 - Physiological Transformation During Enlightenment 00:49:59 - Tapas: Burning off the Dross 00:53:44 - Appreciating the Absolute and Relative 00:58:01 - Living in the Present Moment 01:01:13 - The Overratedness of Thinking 01:04:48 - The Intelligence of the Body and Nature 01:08:27 - Love and Freedom from Fear 01:11:58 - The Experience of Connection and Oneness 01:15:16 - Student Enlightenment and the Beauty of Transformation 01:19:07 - Staying Aware and Avoiding Pitfalls 01:23:33 - Discovering the Teacher and the Path 01:27:30 - Peter Jones and Studying in Japan 01:31:02 - Gradual Realization of the Shocking Experience 01:35:03 - Overcoming Fear and Realizing the Unknown 01:39:09 - The Connection between Determination and Enlightenment 01:42:28 - The Impact on Relationships 01:46:13 - Opportunities for Retreats and Sessions 01:48:43 - Conclusion and Wrap-up 01:51:36 - Interview with Dan Harris

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0:00.0	The
0:07.0	The Welcome to Buddha at the gas pump.
0:27.6	My name is Rick Archer and my guest today is Linda Claire.
0:30.6	Linda is down in Melbourne, Australia, and she seems to be quite popular down there has an interesting following of I've
0:41.3	read her book what do you want and it consists largely of interactions with
0:46.6	her students many of which are quite lively and fascinating so welcome Linda
0:52.0	thanks for doing this hi Hi Rick. Hiya.
0:55.0	One thing that I first noticed about you, Linda, when I started reading your book, and we'll
0:59.0	get into your whole bio and how you came to be where you are now and all, but one thing I first
1:04.0	noticed was that you're not shy about using the E word, which some people are, and I guess they are, even in the the Buddhist tradition if you ask the Dalai Lama if he's enlightened he'll just sort of give some deferential answer he won't answer and yet you were raised in a Buddhist tradition or pursued one so what do you mean by enlightenment and why is it that you're comfortable using the word
1:28.7	in terms of your own experience?
1:32.0	Well, I'll answer the second part of the question first. I feel comfortable using it because
1:38.3	I know when I was practicing, that's what I was looking for, a teacher who was enlightened.
1:44.8	So my teacher who was trained in the Buddhist tradition, my first teacher, used the
1:50.9	word enlightenment and it really, that's what appealed to me.
1:54.6	And that's basically what I wanted.
1:57.6	And so when I realized, I didn't want to be shy about using the word. And I suppose
2:05.6	it's one reason I couldn't teach in the Buddhist tradition because, you know, there's all
2:10.6	those rules about not using the E word, the Enlightenment word. I don't use it as much now as I used to, but yeah, I used to use it quite a bit.
2:20.3	And it's what, it's really what most people are interested in.
2:23.3	They're interested in enlightenment.
2:25.3	So I didn't see any reason for skirting around it, for avoiding the word.
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