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#SistersInLaw

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🗓️ 5 July 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Joyce Vance hosts #SistersInLaw to look at the challenges posed by political turmoil, and expose the horrific allegations of torture against deportees. Then, the #Sisters discuss the 8th Amendment ban on cruel and unusual punishment, how it applies to those being targeted by ICE, and the importance of free speech in the face of chilling actions by the Trump government. They also look at recent politically based lawsuits targeting the administration’s enemies, the future of immigration after the passage of the recent budget bill, and the merits of possible denaturalization efforts.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome back to hashtag sisters-in-law with Kimberly Atkins store, Barb McQuaid, and me, Joyce fans.
0:18.8	Jill will be back soon.
0:24.1	This week, we have three big topics for you.
0:29.7	It might be a holiday week, but hashtag sisters-in-law, work in overtime. First up, we'll be talking about the most recent updates to the Ibrego-Garcia case. Then we'll be talking about
0:35.7	the state of free speech in America, and finally something
0:39.4	I've been worried would happen, this administration's intention to strip citizenship away from
0:45.3	people who aren't naturalized citizens. But before we get to the serious bits, make sure you run to our
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1:03.0	We are missing Jill this week. Jill, however, has just texted us to sign in, and that's because
1:10.5	Jill is one of the grand marshals for the
1:12.9	Evanston, Illinois 4th of July parade. So she's texting us that she's in a Ford Model T.
1:20.3	Oh, gosh. Of course she is. She's the grand marshal in the July 4th parade.
1:29.4	I'll bet the crowds are cheering. She's the Grand Marshal in the July 4th parade. I'll bet the crowds are cheering.
1:31.1	She's probably throwing candy to the kids and all of that.
1:34.2	Sounds amazing.
1:35.6	You know, we tape on Fridays a little bit in advance of the parade itself happening.
1:40.3	You guys don't hear us until the weekend.
1:42.3	But I'm dying to see pictures of Jill as the Grand Marshal.
1:45.4	Oh, you know, she's looking like a million bucks in her like white and blue suit and waving the royal wave.
1:51.5	She's always glamorous. She literally wakes up glamour, so she's going to look fantastic.
1:56.9	Very fun. How about you guys? What are your July 4th plans?
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